Friday, November 25, 2011

Brief morning delusion…

So basically it's a couple of days I try to use a given piece of software. And for some unfathomable reason the thing does not do a specific thing which I need and it shall do. I'm not going to be more specific, because I do not want to point fingers.

The point is that it does not give any clues on why it is failing or what is exactly trying to do (thus "how" it is failing). Since the project is open source I decided to take the sources and hack my way to the problem. I have a rather good understanding on the domain that I'm going to solve (it's related to unix processes -- though in OS X environment --). I'm familiar with both.

It's been a while since I last wrote some Objective-C, but this time I should just look at the sources, perhaps set a couple of breakpoints and find out what is happening. My plan is that after that I could fix the source so that:

  1. It logs what is doing
  2. It logs any errors that occur
  3. Perhaps I fix the specific problem in the code

The first bad piece of new is that I spot some obvious software engineering mistakes in the software. Unfortunately it is stuff that needs more than a casual hacking to be fixed (specifically, I'm talking about configuration stuff hardcoded in the sources). Still, it is not probably a big issue. It may even make sense in some contexts… well, not really. But anyway. Some wrong data-structures… but everything is basically fine: the code, a part from that, is well written and rather clear.

So I localize the piece of code that fails. It does a bloody lot of magic, in my opinion. My guts tell me that some of it is just unnecessary, some better design could lead to much simpler and less magic code. The only problem is that sometimes such kludges are just a consequence of unorthogonal design of the underlying systems (in this case OS X). But that is something I would do later on, after simply adding the code that logs possible errors (I think that is of paramount importance for the semi-technical users of the software, in the sense that they could better understand what is going awry when they customize it).

Then a thought strikes me: compile the whole thing just before making modifications. The svn repo should have been left in compilable state… but no. It is not. So I should have to find the last point where it can be compiled. Which I could do… well, another time.


Monday, November 7, 2011

Java 7 for Mac OS X

Just a preview, for now: link

Good. Performance improvements should also be seen in Clojure.

Still I am not extremely familiar with all the various improvements. After I found out that closures were not going to make it, I just lost interest in the whole process.

Saturday, November 5, 2011

Scheme Rant, but a bright future lies ahead!

Is this the best moment for scheme ever? First of all, I have to admit that although I quite studied the language in the last years, I'm a bit outside the spirit of the community. My impressions basically come from some discussions I have with more experienced schemer friends and reading stuff on the web.

I have often wrote about my difficulties with finding a satisfactory scheme environment. Essentially problems boil down to two things:

  1. I have very high expectations for programming environment (batteries included, etc.)
  2. I have very high expectations on Lisps, probably because every lisper I met spent a great deal of his non-programming time saying how lisp did this and that 30 years ago. So I expect to do it now, to do it fast and to do it well.

The issue with the first point is that I'm mostly used to programming environments which are mostly unique. Python is just Python. I use the very same interpreter everywhere, I know what it does, which features are supported and which ones are not. Same thing for Clojure or Erlang and nowadays mostly true for Haskell. I avoided the issue with C/C++ being rigorously adherent to the standards or to very minor gcc extensions (and by the way, I'm always using gcc).

On the other hand in Scheme there are many implementations and there is not a clear winner. There are implementations which are "worse" than others, but among the good ones it is hard to choose.

The problem is especially significant because I somewhat got into a period of transition between R5RS and R6RS (which are two standards). I somewhat lived something like that with C++, but at least back then there was clear consensus that pre-standard C++ was unarguably worse than post-standard C++.

Essentially, R6RS came out in the mid 2007 and I started learning Scheme not much afterwards. Moreover (here discussions with my friend kick in) a large part of the Scheme community did not like the standard, feeling that the new language was too large (plus strictly speaking it should lack a REPL).

After reading Dybvig's 4th edition Scheme book I found that mostly I like the new stuff. However, for some unfathomable reason I sticked with Gambit, which does not implement it. So, while I like the idea that Scheme was a little language which you use to build your language, I missed lots of R6RS features which just make to much sense for me (as an "application/library" programmer, instead than a "language programmer"). That, and the fact that if you want to toy with a new language, you do not want to re-implement merge-sort (unless you are are explicitly choosing that example to learn the language).

So there were lots of incomprehensions between me and the my scheme learning process. But I'm afraid that lots of non schemer may be feeling the very same stuff about it (and perhaps jump to clojure, which fixes that issues by default).

Some time later, the other scheme implementation I used became another language (and I'm looking forward to read the new No Starch Press book about it). So the more "batteries included" tool I knew in scheme, ceased to be scheme.

I think things would have been easier if I just picked up an R6RS implementation and stick with it. However, things went differently. Not that I do not like Racket, still I find ackward to code in Racket when I want to grok Scheme and code written in Racket is so often not very portable to other schemes (and that is why Racket is Racket). I'm not complaining about Racket: I think they did the right thing.

However, nowadays the Racket book is scheduled. And there is going to be a new standard R7RS. And they decided to define a "small" and a "big" language. And I really do believe this is wonderful because it would make clear exactly what to expect from either language also to newbies. Moreover, perhaps some of the more reasonable improvements with less reaching implication which R6RS will be added to the small language as well. E.g., how to define libraries and generic information about what to expect from the "platform". Or maybe "values" related stuff.

So, in essence, I think in the future it will be a great time to learn scheme. Maybe I will have the courage (and the time) to re-learn it from scratch and fix all my miscomprehensions which came from the way I originally learned the language.

Sunday, October 30, 2011

Does Perl suck? (and something about this Quorum Language)

The short story is that a group of researchers created yet another language. And I see nothing wrong with that. Most people sooner or later implement their own language (or wish to); researchers just do it more often. These languages usually have specific goals and some of them become widespread programming languages. Other remain academic toys. This particular language was created to be intuitive and easy to use. And the researcher meant to make it intuitive and easy with usability studies. I will comment on the idea later.

Fact is, that they put out a paper which compared their Quorum language with Perl and another language they designed to be bad. And they claim that the accuracy rates of their users were similar for Perl and Randomo (the bad language) and worse than Quorum.

Does Perl suck?

The question is that the story became very popular because of this: because they claim to have scientifically proved that Perl sucks. And such pieces of news have huge diffusion. The essence here is that I do not think that the results are so very relevant: they used only the easy part of Perl. As a consequence, I think that many other languages would have scored similarly. And think about it... if the easy part of Perl is hard for novices... what about the hard one?

As far as I can tell, the thing is mostly a syntactical issue. I haven't found papers on the full semantics of Quorum. From the examples in the paper, it looks like the illegitimate child of Ada and Ruby. I'm sure that I'm missing something, but it is mostly a matter of substituitions like:

for -> repeat [ which other major language had a repeat statement? ]
float -> number [*very* clear, especially before explaining the noobs how much different are floating point numbers from real numbers]

I don't consider it particularly readable. On the contrary to me something like:

  if d > e then
    return d
  end
  else then
  return e
  end
  

looks like a walking syntax error. I think I would take lot of time to convince me that it is proper english. I'm not a native speaker, but to me:

  if something is true, then do this, else do that
  

sounds quite more convincing than:

  if something is true, then do this, else then do that
  

All considered, it seems to me that they are optimizing the easy part of learning. The syntax is an issue in the first like 2-3 months of programming. After that the problems become semantic and theoretic. Computer Science is hard. It is not the syntax of the programming language you first learn to program with that makes it easier.

To me, it looks like they would use sponge rubber balls to make rugby less violent, completely ignoring the full contact issue.

Besides, I believe that most people who have serious issues with the syntax of todays' programming languages would also have problems with the semantics and with calculus and lambda calculus and whatever hard stuff is taught in the courses. Moreover, hiding the complexity is not always a good thing.

In a computer we can't represent a real number. We know that. At a given point in our curriculum, we also know exactly why. However, usually the odd behavior of floating point number strikes. Odd in the sense that people usually expect them to behave like real numbers. They do not.

A popular surprise is in Python when they use the console to make operations. In older Python versions, a number was printed just how it was in memory.

>>> 1.1
  1.1000000000000001

and guess what... this is extremely surprising for noobies (and in Python 2.7 the algorithm changed so that the printed number tries to be more 'intuitive' and in the case just prints 1.1). The fact is that 1.1 cannot be represented in memory (as a floating point number) and an approximation is used. This is quite hard stuff.

Pretending that floating point numbers are not floating point numbers is going to lead to disaster as soon as things get rough. So, I while I think there are far easier languages to learn to program with than Perl (Python, Ruby, Scheme) I don't think that Quorum is such a huge advantage past the "very very noob - why this does not compile if(foo); {...} else; {...}" part. And that is not the part to optimize.

And what about quorum?

Unfortunately enough, I do not know very much about usability. So I really cannot comment their methods. However, I think that I can say a couple of things from the point of view of language design. The first thing is that most languages that I think are worth learning and using have some very complex stuff and that stuff is what makes the language powerful. With powerful here I mean that it gets the job done quicker, with less line of code and, why not, shapes the programmer's mind in good ways, giving him insight.

Remove this advanced stuff and you have only dumb ugly languages. Such languages would not make you or your programs better. Remove first order functions and macros from Lisp or Clojure and you are just coding Pascal.

And I'm not exactly sure that "usability" can be applied to programming language design. Some argue that since most "experts" disagree on which features should be added to a programming language (and agree that having them all is a bad thing), such studies are needed to determine how to build the one and "true" language. And I have to say that I disagree.

Democracy plainly does not work in technical issues. Noob programmers are plainly not entitled to discuss about advanced language features that they have not yet the experience to understand and which solve problems they have not yet encountered. So called "professional" (i would say business) programmers do not care about the programming language, be it Java or Cobol. They probably would not have advanced features either, because they may thing such features would slow their juniors down. They mostly care about powerful libraries: the discussion is not at the language level, but at an architectural level. They don't do algorithms, they have to make complex under-documented systems interact and work correctly.

So we have just people who "love" programming languages. People who have a strong opinion on how a programming language should be. And guess what? We disagree. Some of us prefer Ruby to Python. Someone else thinks they are the same and that Haskell is the best.

The simple decision of creating an object oriented imperative language is a very strong assumption. I could not rationally say that object oriented is easier than functional programming. Not even if I thought it. And you can't ask noobs if they prefer functional languages (which they do not know what they are), nor you can ask business programmers (which probably dislike them). And if you ask to object zealots, they will answer that FP is just harder.... however, if you ask to functional programmers, they will say that FP languages are easier.

There are lots of design issues which are too bloody architectural to be decided with statistics.

Regarding the Quorum language itself... I strolled through the library files. And what? I changed my initial opinion... its more something between VisualBasic and Java. It has generics. Which are one of the things which are bloody harder to understand in Java (especially if you throw in extends, ? and company). And if you don't, you have a type-system that cannot express some perfectly useful stuff.

It has packages and includes (they are just called 'use'). The nice thing is that Java without an IDE is a PITA partly because of the redundancy of the interaction between classpath/packages and directory structure. And as far as I can tell that stuff is still there. Not sure that being strongly typed makes things easier for the noobs too.

Well, good luck then... my first impression is that it is basically Java without some nice stuff and a visual basic-ish syntax. On the other hand the compiler code looks very well written (still... writing compilers in Haskell/scheme is just so much easier than doing that in Java)... but really: in 2011, with everybody re-discovering the merits of functional programming (Clojure/Land of Lisp/Learn yourself Haskell/Racket/.../C# being more functional than ever/Erlang)... do we need yet another object oriented language?

Saturday, October 29, 2011

Working Java 7 on Ubuntu Oneiric Ocelot 11.10 (update-alternatives)

I still have not figured out why the default openjdk installation on Ubuntu 11.10 seems broken. With broken I mean that there are no entries in the alternatives database and no command in the path (which follows from not being the default alternative).

As a consequence, I did the same old mumbo jumbo with update-alternatives. As the openjdk-7 is in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/, I just run the following commands:

% sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/java 4 
% sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javac 4     t
% sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/jar jar /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/jar 4 

I guess I may want to do  the trick for more executable stuff. Moreover, I have no idea whether the browser plugin works or not. It has been ages since I actually used it and right at the moment I do not care. Hope this will be helpful.

After that, just call the appropriate update-alternatives --config ja(vac|va|r) stuff!

I almost forgot... I just installed the plain openjdk-7-jdk/jdr stuff from the official ubuntu repositories.

Besides... I have seen a package sun-java-{yadda-yadda}-bin which may have been the provider of the links in the first place (when I was using sun's JDK which was correctly packaged). Right at the moment I cannot see a similar package for OpenJDK. My Ubuntu went postal recently and consequently I cannot verify. :(

Friday, October 28, 2011

Ubuntu 11.10

Yesterday I decided to update my netbook to the last incarnation of the Ubuntu distribution. In the past days I read something about bad bugs in the kernel regarding power saving and similar stuff; however, nothing happened here (yet).

I was quite amazed to find a Linux 3.0 kernel. It is the single event that made me think how little I keep myself informed about Linux specific stuff. I still find it hard to study all the languages, technologies and theory which has to do with my work (which is also responsible for me posting very little, lately) and my generic interests (functional programming, for example). I simply dropped most stuff regarding system administration and even platforms. In fact, I haven't upgraded to Lion either.

So I don't know a thing about this Linux 3.0 kernel. On the other hand I remember I followed very closely the new features of the 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. In fact, I have also some memories of stuff before that (I used mkLinux, though). I think this means I'm just growing older.

Anyway... I still don't like Unity. However, I'm one of those guys who basically open up a shell a fire some stuff from there (editor, interpreters and compilers). Or occasionally I open IntelliJ/PyCharm. So really, I'm not entitled to talk about that. I simply noticed that the colours moved from that tiring orange to shades of green which are just easier on my eyes. Nothing important. I just find it nice not to have the gnome menus, since I have a very very tiny screen. In this sense, my iPad screen feels just larger (even though it is not). I think it simply depends on the way applications are designed.

I just found out that for some reason I do not have Java properly installed, even if before the update I did have it. It felt akward to run clojure and get a "command not found: java" error; especially considering that up to 5 minutes before that I was debugging a Java project inside IntelliJ. Though I think it has something to do with my current installation of OpenJDK 7.

About the "good" things... Now leiningen is packaged (and decently recen, as far as I can tell); moreover, also clojure 1.2 (and contrib) are installable packages. Perhapsit could be enough... Waiting for Clojure 1.3, by the way.

Thursday, October 6, 2011

Dahl (Node.Js), Sussman (Scheme) and the Scientific Method

Everything started with Dahl's post "I hate almost all software" (probably not Node.js). I basically agree with the second sentence and the last one (that is to say "The only thing that matters in software is the experience of the user" and "It's unnecessary and complicated at almost every layer"). Other stuff is just a list of obvious thing: when systems evolve and nobody cuts broken parts out, then systems become complicated.

In fact, this is almost a built-in feature: for years our answer to complexity was "add another layer". Which led to the "abstraction leaks" Martelli talked about in some conferences and the obvious fact that the layer we just hid did not became any simpler. We just put the dirt under the carpet. Needles to say, the new layer becomes as complex as the old one in a few years/months/days.

So what? I would also point out another apparently unrelated event. In 2009, Sussman explained why at MIT Python substituted Scheme in basic programming courses. And we all know how wonderful is SICP; still the authors themselves started thinkng about changing the course since 1995. Essentially the reason is that "engineering in 1980 was not what it was in the mid-90s or in 2000. In 1980, good programmers spent a lot of time thinking, and then produced spare code that they thought should work. Code ran close to the metal, even Scheme — it was understandable all the way down. [...] 6.001 had been conceived to teach engineers how to take small parts that they understood entirely and use simple techniques to compose them into larger things that do what you want.
But programming now isn’t so much like that. Nowadays you muck around with incomprehensible or nonexistent man pages for software you don’t know who wrote. You have to do basic science on your libraries to see how they work, trying out different inputs and seeing how the code reacts. This is a fundamentally different job, and it needed a different course."
Isn't that they are basically saying the very same thing about today software world? I think so. Software is so complicated that we ought to use experimental techniques to dig into it.
The part that Dahl lives out is that Node.js is not any simpler (I will elaborate on that in another moment). In fact Javascript itself suffers all the problems described of being unnecessarily complex (to me lack of orthogonality and regularity is a form of complexity of the worse kind -- and it is also the very critique I move to languages I love, like Clojure). Adding a nice asynchronous layer on the top of a messy language is only going to create an asynchronous messy language. Nothing more, nothing less. But hey, V8 is fast.

Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Eclipse...

Is it possible that to upgrade a major version of Eclipse there is no other way than just reinstall every bloody plugin I'm using?

Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Clojure: Quicksort in Continuation Passing Style and Trampolines

Introduction

In this post we are going to write a completely recursive stack-wary version of the classical quicksort algorithm in continuation passing style, making use of trampolines.
I already discussed quicksort in continuation passing style in this post. The idea is to refer to the post as much as possible and introduce here more information.
From Wikipedia:
Instead of "returning" values as in the more familiar direct style, a function written in continuation-passing style takes an explicit "continuation" argument, i.e. a function which is meant to receive the result of the computation performed within the original function. Similarly, when a subroutine is invoked within a CPS function, the calling function is required to supply a procedure to be invoked with the subroutine's "return" value. Expressing code in this form makes a number of things explicit which are implicit in direct style. These include: procedure returns, which become apparent as calls to a continuation; intermediate values, which are all given names; order of argument evaluation, which is made explicit; and tail calls, which simply is calling a procedure with the same continuation that was passed to the caller, unmodified.
Essentially there are two issues in CPS with Clojure. The first one is recursion on the stack. CPS is tail recursive by default; however, most of the times it is about mutually recursive calls. Which essentially means trampolines.
The second issue relates to the continuation themselves. First, they may occupy heap space (as the continuations stay in memory until evaluated), second, the continuations themselves need to be treated with trampolines, otherwise, when evaluated consume stack space.
However, with massive usage of trampolines, both issues can be solved.

Append

The first function we need to write is append (i.e., concat in Clojure Jargon). We need to write a new version because we need to have it deal with the continuation. And as we will see, append is a false friend.
(defn append-notramp [lst1 lst2 k]
  (cond
   (empty? lst1) (k lst2)
   :else (recur (rest lst1) lst2
                 (fn [rst]
                   (k (cons (first lst1) rst))))))
At first sight, his implementation looks correct. We can try it with simple inputs and convince ourselves that the semantics is right. Essentially if there are elements in the first list, the new continuation is a function taking a list rst and calling the continuation we received with a list where we consed the first element of lst1 on rst.
However, running with increasingly large values for lst1 results in a stack overflow.
user> (cps/append-notramp (range 100000) (range 4) identity)
; Evaluation aborted.
In this case, recur is a false friend. We are lead to think that since append-notramp is tail-recursive, we do not have to worry about stack overflow. The issue here are the chain of continuations, however. And they cannot use recur, because even though they *are* tail recursive, they are mutually recursive. Luckily enough, Clojure provides trampolines and in this case, they are also relatively easy to use.
(defn append [lst1 lst2 k]
  (cond
   (empty? lst1) #(k lst2)
   :else (recur (rest lst1) lst2
                 (fn [rst]
                   #(k (cons (first lst1) rst))))))
Here append plainly returns a chain of functions which returns functions and they can be resolved calling trampoline on them. I pass empty as the continuation because I do not want a list of some thousand of elements printed on standard output. The other function just checks the 0s are at the right places.
user> (cps/append (range 100000) (range 4) empty)
#[cps$append$fn__5392 cps$append$fn__5392@30ea3e3c]
user> (trampoline (cps/append (range 100000) (range 4) empty))
()
user> (trampoline (cps/append (range 100000) (range 4)
                              #(and (= (nth % 0) 0)
                                    (= (nth % 100001)))))
true

Partition

Partition suffers from a similar problem than append, in the sense that a naive version blows the stack.
(defn- partition-notramp [coll p? k]
  (loop [coll coll k k]
    (cond
     (empty? coll) (k () ())
     (p? (first coll)) (recur (rest coll)
                              (fn [p-true p-false]
                                (k (cons (first coll) p-true)
                                   p-false)))
     :else (recur (rest coll)
                  (fn [p-true p-false]
                    (k p-true
                       (cons (first coll)
                             p-false)))))))
The solution is also similar. When a continuation k is called, instead return a function which calls k, like #(k ...).
(defn- partition [coll p? k]
  (loop [coll coll k k]
    (cond
     (empty? coll) #(k () ())
     (p? (first coll)) (recur (rest coll)
                              (fn [p-true p-false]
                                #(k (cons (first coll) p-true)
                                   p-false)))
     :else (recur (rest coll)
                  (fn [p-true p-false]
                    (k p-true
                       (cons (first coll)
                             p-false)))))))

Quicksort

Now things become complicated. Quicksort is a doubly recursive function and is called inside the continuations. We basically have each continuation return a function which runs what would have been the continuation weren't we using trampolines. This works like a breeze: we just have to call trampoline before returning.
(defn quicksort
  ([coll less? k]
     (letfn [(qs [coll k]
                 (if (empty? coll) #(k ())
                     (let [[pivot & coll1] coll]
                       (partition coll1
                                  (fn [x] (less? x pivot))
                                  (fn [less-than greater-than]
                                    (fn []
                                      (qs greater-than
                                          (fn [sorted-gt]
                                            (fn []
                                              (qs less-than
                                                  (fn [sorted-lt]
                                                    (append sorted-lt (cons pivot sorted-gt) k))))))))))))]
       (trampoline (qs coll k))))
     ([coll less?]
        (quicksort coll less? identity)))

A word on performace

Of course, performance is rather terrible. First, quicksort in functional settings rather sucks. I find it so much imperative oriented that it is even hard to think about it in this context (notice here we are using rather complex stuff to make it functionally looking).
Then there are a number of issues:
  1. Typical optimizations like switching to other algorithms with lower multiplicative constants is not easy to do. Every self-respecting implementation of quicksort when the list is sufficiently small switches to something like insertion sort because it is just faster (say... sublists of k elements).
  2. Other optimizations like recursing first in the smaller half of the array are also hard to do (because we are using lists... we should essentially use a custom variant of partition which takes care of such nuisances).
  3. Quicksort performs poorly if the pivot element is chosen as the first element in the list. However, in functional settings, where the core data structure is likely to (or just may be) a list, taking an element in the middle has an inacceptable algorithmic complexity
  4. Moreover, partition is likely to use far more memory than what would use in imperative settings
Consequently, Clojure sort is plainly faster, considering that it should call Java sort (which now is the blazingly fast tim-sort, a difficult if not impossible to beat algorithm). Comparisons in this sense are embarassing. That is why I did not even try to code smarter in order to make this quicksort faster. And no, I'm definitely not going to turn tim-sort in CPS+trampolines by hand.
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Saturday, September 3, 2011

Too many cool languages (Python, Clojure, ...)

There is plenty of languages I like. I'm naming just a bunch of them here... so a non exclusive list may be:

  1. Python
  2. Common Lisp
  3. Scheme
  4. Clojure
  5. Erlang
  6. Haskell
  7. Prolog
  8. Ruby

The list is quite incomplete... for example I left out languages from the ML family. I do not have anything against them, I just think Haskell nowadays is way cooler (cooler != better) and also the Haskell platform is a definitive advantage. I did not mention languages such as Io, because although I'd really like to do something with it, it just does do not feel enough motivation to try and do it in Io instead than in one of the languages above.

Same thing for Javascript. It's not that I do not like it... it is just that if I can, I would rather use one of the languages I mentioned (which at least in case of client side JS most of the times is a no go). I also left out things like CoffeeScript and a whole lot of languages that did not even jump to my mind right now.

The list is quite representative of my tastes in programming languages. All the languages are very high level languages (I enjoy plain old C, but I tend to use it to extend the above languages and/or for problems which really need C points of strength). Most of them are declarative languages, almost every one of them has a strong functional flavor (basically just Prolog hasn't, the others are either functional languages or received a strong influence from functional programming).

Some of the languages are better for certain tasks, because they are built for them or have widely tested libraries/frameworks. And this somewhat makes it a difficult choice which one to chose. For example, every time a network service has to be written, I consider Python (Twisted/Stackless), Erlang and recently Clojure. If the system has to be highly concurrent, probably Erlang has an edge, but also Haskell (with STM and lightweight threads) and Scheme (Gambit/Termite) are strong contenders.

This is essentially about personal projects. In fact, for "serious" stuff, I am still using Python or Java (and C/C++ if more muscle is needed). This is basically because I have far more experience with those technologies. Clojure is probably a viable choice as well, as I can easily interact with Java and I have been using that quite intensively in the past two years (I also used it to extend one of the "serious" projects, though I had to remove it because I had other experimental components and it was tiresome to find out whether bugs were due to the other components or my relative inexperience with clojure). Besides, I have still to find winning debugging strategies for clojure: probably I'm missing something obvious here. I'm also trying to increase my expertise with Erlang.

These are some random thought about developing in the environments.

Editing Tools

The first issue, is to find the right tools. It is not exactly easy to discover the right tools to develop in non mainstream languages. For example, with Java any major IDE is a good enough tool. For Python, both PyCharm and WingIDE are excellent and easy to use tools. Moreover, vim is an excellent tool with only minor tweaking. Oddly enough, I'm still struggling to find a good setup for Emacs.

On the contrary, Emacs is quite easily one of the best environments for Scheme/Common Lisp/Clojure (thanks to slime), Haskell, Erlang and Prolog (thanks to the improved modes). Still, after years of switching back and forth from Emacs to vim and vice versa, I think I'm more comfortable with vim. Unfortunately, it is not always the case that customizing vim for these languages is as easy as it is with Emacs. For example, I found an easy to use Erlang plugin, but I have still to try using advanced plugins for Haskell and Clojure (I know the plugins, still I did not finish the setup). For Clojure it's just easier to fire LaClojure or Emacs+Slime. For Haskell, I'm not serious enough to know my own needs. I wrote software for my bachelor's in Prolog with vim, and I have to say that Emacs is quite superior (especially considering Sicstus custom mode).

Back in the day I used TextMate for Ruby. Right now I guess I'd probably go with RubyMine or vim.

Platform

Now this is a serious point. Many of my "difficulties" with Scheme lie here: chose one interpreter/compiler with libraries to do most things I want to do and some tool to ease the installation of other libraries (I should probably just stick with Racket). For example with Python it is easy: pick the default CPython interpreter, use pip/easy_install for additional libraties.

Common Lisp is also going well (SBCL + Quicklisp here). I was pleasantly surprised by Haskell: the Haskell platform is wonderful. Some years ago it was not completely clear which interpreter to use and external tools (like Haskell) were not completely immediate. Now with the Haskell platform you just have everything under control.

About clojure, I feel rather satisfied. For project oriented stuff there is leiningen, which works fine. My main objection is that most of the time I'm not *starting* with project oriented stuff... which is something which so much remembers me of the Java world, where first you start a project (as opposed to unix, where you just start with a file). Luckily enough in the clojure community there are also guys like me, and so there is cljr which just fills the area of "before" something becomes a project.

Cljr is very nice with emacs/swank/slime. Unfortunately I've not yet found a way to make it interact with vim.

Erlang already comes bundled with an interesting platform and rebar does lots of nice stuff too. Erlang/OTP tends to be a bit too project oriented but it quite makes sense. Basically all of the times you are setting up systems with many processes and all and it just makes sense to do it that way.

Prolog is essentially a complete mess. I advise just using SWI-Prolog and forget the rest even exists, unless you need some of the advanced stuff Sicstus offers. In this case you pay and enjoy.